Posts by Nathan Natas

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Science Fiction fan? Help please..

by Xanthippe in

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does anyone remember a story about humans visiting a planet where they had fruit that smelt so delicious that it was almost impossible to resist but if you did eat it, it changed you genetically into a different species that i think was immortal.

seem to remember something about the 'victim' losing their human face and a sort of beak would form.

sound familiar to anyone?.

Nathan Natas

Impressive, AnneB, most impressive.

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does anyone know where this pic is from?

by wallsofjericho in

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i am looking for a better image, i think this is partially cropped.

but i have no idea what publication it is from.

Nathan Natas

L3G, yes, you are confusing famous Watchtower nutcases. The nutcase you are thinking of is C. J. Woodworth, the Demon Possessed editor of the Golden Age magazine, who wrote things like "We do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure. Their so-called "science" grew out of Egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands." and "The Journal of the A. M. A. is the vilest sheet that passes the United States mail.... Nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation. Its attacks are generally ad hominem. Its editorial columns are largely devoted to character assasination.... Its editor [Morris Fishbein] is of the type of Jew that crucified Jesus Christ."

W. E. van A. was one of the WTB&TS most precious relics, donating his self-respect to the Society's service through the reigns of Russell, Rutherford, and Knorr. At International assemblies they would soak him in tanna-leaf-tea and present his mummified self as the image of loyalty.

See my reprints of The Way to Paradise and A Bible for the Scientist for more information about WEVA (Amazon).

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does anyone know where this pic is from?

by wallsofjericho in

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i am looking for a better image, i think this is partially cropped.

but i have no idea what publication it is from.

Nathan Natas

Looking at the art in the brochure, I have to say I'll bet the artist is one HELL of a window-washer!

Blondie, my guess is that the women shown in the illo are either "anonymous Bethel chambermaid" or Greenlees & Chitty.

Wallsofjericho, I agree with you. The person shown is the famous Watchtower spineless prop W. E. van Amburgh, who traded his integrity for room & board.

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Can we excuse the R&F for ever ?

by Phizzy in

generally i go along with it when posters express pity and sympathy for the r&f jw's.

i feel this way toward them too, to a degree.. but where do we draw the line ?

we know that jw's do not have a conscience of their own really, they are told how to think and act, and they have to obey.. just as those living in nazi germany were told how to think and act, and had to obey.. but, " i was just following orders " was not taken as a valid defense at nuremburg.. as the wt descends in to becoming more and more like north korea in its do not question, simply obey !

Nathan Natas

I feel it is important to bear in mind that the WTB&TS membership is not fixed, it is fluid. The Borg as a whole may grow, but each year thousands of people leave for many reasons. Some kill themselves, some go insane and require institutionalization, and some walk away to follow their bliss.

I'm not saying there are not a LOT of "old-timers." but that is more because of psychological inertia than deep conviction. People are loathe to admit when they've made a bad decision. If they realize they are going to die without having a chance to waltz thru the Great Tribulation and Armageddon into "THE NEW WORLD" they might feel they have nothing to lose by sticking around and going through the motions, the way I believe the majority of people of all religions do.

(I feel that most people are CLOSET ATHEISTS, which is exactly what "having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power" means. I mean, how many people say, "Yes I believe that there is a God, and that he wants me to behave as though he did not exist"?)

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Retirement complex for older JW's to be built

by moomanchu in

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this is literally almost in my backyard.. they are using a local contractor, not jw volunteers.. http://www.mcall.com/business/mc-jehova-witness-retirement-home-20140205,0,2445692.story.

21 f. thursday, feb. 6, 20146:49 am est .

retirement complex for jehovah's witnesses in salisbury townshipnine-month project to employ workers from 20 trades.

Nathan Natas

How much of their personal net worth does an interested Dub need to contribute to get a spot in one of these hostiles? (Pun intended)

What happens if a Dub gets in and later is expelled from TCCoJW? Do they get their "contribution" back?

NOTE: TCCoW=The Christian Congregation of ehovah's Witnesses

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...What do you Do,when People Ask You for Spare Change?...

by OUTLAW in

.. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...

.. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...

..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...

Nathan Natas

I'm in Seattle. Several years ago I was walking along "the ave" near the campus of the UW. There was a time when this street was filled with young scholars in pursuit of an education but today the scholars hide in their dorms to avoid the street punks, drug dealers, prostitutes and skateboarders who have NO future. But I digress... I was on the west side of the ave near North 44th - by the Post Office - when one of the resident bums stretches out his arn and jiggles a cup of coins in front of me.

Without breaking my stride, I said "No thanks, I have plenty." That torqued the bum's jaws a bit.

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NEED Help before Monday

by Crazyguy in

i noticed in a thread a day or 2 ago that someone mentioned a wt dated back in 1981 i believe where it stated that the policy of the jw's were that if anyone even thought a doubt about the jw's that they were infact apostates!!!

i downloaded the article in the 1980 8/1 pp17-22 and that was not the article.

can't find the thread, help anyone please!!!!!

Nathan Natas

"Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part."

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Growing a beard!!

by ILoveTTATT in

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i am doing one of my dreams for a while: growing a beard.

it may not seem like much, but it's quite the experience for me.

it's probably a rite of passage from jw to exjw lol.. besides the itchyness, i hate it that it curls so much (i have hairs that naturally start to curl after a certain length).. anyone here have tips on taking care of a beard?

Nathan Natas

Instead of vegetable oil, I would go with light weight mineral oil (odorless baby oil). Mineral oil cannot go rancid or oxidize (at room temp.) like vegetable oils can.

Did you know that baby oil contains NO baby extract? That's false advertising!

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Are some dog breeds more responsive than others?

by compound complex in

woof!.

i care for numerous canines and wonder about your experiences with man's best friend.. some appear ready and able to do as asked and others, well, just sort of stare .

and stare.

Nathan Natas

I think it is a case of both NATURE and NURTURE.

Some breeds are demonstrably more intelligent than others (Aussie Sheepdogs). I have also known of some dogs that had passively abusive puppyhoods (lack of contact with dogs or humans) that demonstrated failure to thrive syndrome - they weren't too sharp and were difficult to train - not BAD dogs, but not smart either.

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Growing a beard!!

by ILoveTTATT in

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i am doing one of my dreams for a while: growing a beard.

it may not seem like much, but it's quite the experience for me.

it's probably a rite of passage from jw to exjw lol.. besides the itchyness, i hate it that it curls so much (i have hairs that naturally start to curl after a certain length).. anyone here have tips on taking care of a beard?

Nathan Natas

I've had a beard for most of the almost 40 years since I got out of the 'Tower.

The itchyness when it is just coming in is a result of three factors:

1. The hairs are relatively short and this means they can't flex as much as longer hairs.

2. The ends of the hairs are cut square because of your recently-stopped shaving.

3. Your skin isn't used to dealing with with the sharp edges of the growing hairs.

A shampoo with jojoba (not jejojobah - yuk yuk yuk!) oil in it will make the hair feel softer. I've used Bumble and Bumble Alojoba shampoo in the past. To be honest I don't use it regularly because once the beard is a month old it will be pretty soft. Using a conditioning rinse might also help.

One thing that I really feel is most helpful - even though this will sound weird - is to get a bar (not the liquid form) of LAVA brand hand soap and really work the bar over the beard to work up a big "mad dog" lather. LAVA hand soap contains fine pumice powder, which is abrasive enough to wear the edges of the beard hairs while your face enjoys a super-rich, smooth lather. When the cut edges of the hairs is worn a bit the hair won't itch as much. I am a BIG fan of LAVA hand soap for cleaning more than dirty, greasy hands.

(A famous internet retailer sells bars LAVA hand soap and the Alojoba shampoo.)

I'm not kidding! You can probably get it in supermarkets or hardware stores. Try a bar - if you don't like it on your beard you will be able to use it for dirty or greasy hands.